Popped by my Stepdad's little corner shop today

"Your boy, BJR" (jerseyshoreben)
08/06/2014 at 00:54 • Filed to: None

Not a bad line up at all.

DISCUSSION (78)

AM3R > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 00:55

"Little corner shop"

PatBateman > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 00:56

What kind of deal could you get me on a Vsport?

ETA: I WANT THIS ONE:

http://www.pinebeltcadillac.com/VehicleDetails…

McChiken116 - Patrick H. > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 00:59

What can he offer me on an ELR?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:01

Cadillac's lineup man. Damn.

PatBateman > McChiken116 - Patrick H.
08/06/2014 at 01:01

Are you in Austin yet?

Your boy, BJR > AM3R
08/06/2014 at 01:02

They did 300% their goal last month and are #1 in the region!

Your boy, BJR > McChiken116 - Patrick H.
08/06/2014 at 01:02

Depends. What can you offer him?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:03

Kinja'd!!!

WHY CADILLAC?!?! You have a full lineup of superb vehicles, the best American luxury cars in many decades, you have a new Benz-beating boat on the way, AND YET YOU STILL CONTINUE TO MAKE AND SELL THIS MISERABLE, UGLY, UNINSPIRING, SATURN-DERIVED (sorry Steno) AND THOROUGHLY UN-NEW-CADILLAC CROSSOVER DRIVEN SOLEY BY 50-65 Y/O MARKY K. SALES EXECUTIVES!!! STOP IT AT ONCE!!!

Edit: From Wikipedia:

The SRX has been Cadillac's best selling model in the United States since 2010.

Well fuck.

Manuél Ferrari > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:03

Why hasn't he given you one yet?

Your boy, BJR > PatBateman
08/06/2014 at 01:04

If you have the money for that, I'll have him do a buy 1 get 1 free deal on that and an XTS V-sport and you donate that to me and then give me money to spend on tailored suits for hooking you up.

Your boy, BJR > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:04

Missing: 2015 Escalade.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:06

Oh yeah, that is an old one hiding in the back.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:06

HEY! You're right to hate it, but you're completely wrong on why. I'm gonna write up and present to you an argument, so don't fall asleep yet.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:08

Nope, falling asleep now, not listening.

JK I'm waiting, but I'm tired and, in case you can't tell from the above rant, cranky. Chop chop.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:09

Well...all but one...

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:10

Hey, the only thing it shares with the first gen Vue where the Theta originated is part of the platform name. It rides on a highly modified version called the Theta Premium, shared only with the Saab 9-4x.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:11

Rule #1 of the auto business: DON'T KILL YOUR HIGHEST SELLING PRODUCT.

Aka SRX.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:11

Bah humbug.

AM3R > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:11

Nice! You should get a side job there, looks like there's plenty of commission to be made haha.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:12

Read mah edit.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:13

Really, it's it's own unique model in GM's portfolio. It even had exclusive engines for a while.

It's not a bad car. It does it's job. And CLEARLY people like it.

PS9 > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:14

So this is how your caddy indoctrination began. They got you before you even left the diapers...

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:19

The SRX is the weakest link in Cadillac's line up, you're right. But at the same time, you are so fucking wrong it makes me reconsider digging your whip. Here's why.

1.) It's their biggest seller. No, really. They sell like 5 SRXs to every CTS sold.

2.) It's not that miserable, I have to admit, it's nicely pimped and drives real nice with the 3.6. (bonus points for the rare ass 2.8T)

3.) It most certainly not is Saturn derived. While the first gen is to the STS what the Honda Pilot is to the Accord, the 2nd gen is a completely original platform. It was developed by cadillac and 1 other company- Saab. GM, trying to save Saab and bring them back outta the red one last time, gave them money to share and develop an all new crossover to compete with the sales juggernaut Lexus RX. Saab develops the smaller size motors, like the 2.8T while cadoo gets to pen up the basic size and shape. This results in 2 vehicles, the SRX and the Saab 9-4x. Saab fails and the SRX is left alone. It is then mistaken for a badge engineered Traverse or Equinox, when in reality is is much larger than the equinox and much smaller than the traverse.

4.) whoever engineered the engine bay is a total fuckwad, because the oil filter is like 3 inches from the cat. Needless to say, many cadillac mechanics have a scar from a severe burn, a few inches down their arm.

5.) no, really, fuck the SRX.

6.) nah, we cool, SRX. If not for you, we wouldn't have goofy fun shit like the XTS V-Sport or ATS 3.6. Thank you, SRX.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:20

1) I'm sure it's not that terrible of a car. But it SCREAMS old Cadillac, old-GM, everything GM and Cadillac are trying to put behind them.

2) Yes. It sells well. Clearly people like them. But it's the clientele and image Cadillac has been trying to get rid of for the past several years. Old people.

Your boy, BJR > PS9
08/06/2014 at 01:25

That's a lie, because my family was dirt fucking poor until my parents got divorced (age 14) and then me and my mom were even more broke, but then my stepdad came in and saved us from the ghetto. My love for cadillac began one august night in 2006, when I rode in my first ever luxury car, my stepdad's 2006 STS sport/lux (sorta like a proto-v-sport). I will never forget the smell of the black leather interior.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:25

So what you're saying, in a nutshell, is that the SRX is Cadillac's Cayenne? A sort of necessary evil needed to fund the production of the Cadillacs we really want.

My biggest issue with the SRX is the same issue I have with the Dodge Avenger; The parent company went through all the trouble of reshaping the brand's image and making a whole new lineup of great cars, and then left one behind, an obvious relic of the old, evil regime. Even though the SRX is no Avenger, imagine how great it would be if it were redone to the level of all it's siblings.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:26

It's only a 4-year-old design/car/platform. Nothing about it is really "old." I mean, it could be the XC90, which has been around since the caveman.

Yeah, so? Why the hell do you think the XTS exists? Old people. You don't piss off whats been your main clientele for years. Two cars in a lineup of other astounding autos isn't that bad. Even thought I personally see a lot of young people driving them.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:27

Yes and no, Yes to the cash cow, no to the avenger comparison. In short, you're wrong. in long…..

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:28

Go on.

McChiken116 - Patrick H. > PatBateman
08/06/2014 at 01:29

Not yet my friend! On the 12th

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:31

It's not bad, but think of what it could be if it got the same reworking as the others. If it got the engines from the ATS. If it got a chassis derived from the new CTS. If it got the styling from the new Escalade. It has so much potential.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:33

….I'd say the XTS is a closer comparison to the avenger. That exists to wean retirees onto LaCrosses. (not to say i don't adore the XTS)

The SRX, on the other hand, is quite the opposite. It was the first step to caddy's reclamation of the luxury throne, claimed recently by the Escalade. I like to think of 21st century cadillac as multiple parts, and it all started with the sixteen and introduction to art and science (modernized logo part 1) The first gen CTS, the STS, the first gen SRX, the DTS, and the XLR. This also led to the founding of the V subdivision of GM's Performance Division. Art and Science Phase 2 started with the 2nd gen CTS, yadda yadda yadda, you get the picture, lets just agree that i'm right.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:33

I thought your first car was almost a Roller. At least, I vaguely remember hearing just that.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:35

The 3.6 liter engine in the ATS is from the SRX. The 2.0T just doesn't have the power to move the SRX swiftly and luxuriously.

Yes, it should be RWD, but that would probably turn a couple people off of it.

Styling, a personal preference, but I've always like it.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:35

You're right.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:38

Yeah, but that wasn't until after my mom got engaged and I started working. I managed to save up $9k, and my maternal grandparents, who have always been upper middle middle class, offered to throw in the rest.

My life story has 2 acts so far Act 1, Birth until HS, and Act 2, HS-today.

Spoiler: my life gets way way way better when my mom meets my stepdad.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:39

I know.

I'm like rainman when it comes to all GM brands Buick or above (cadillac, hummer, saab, oldsmobile)

Conan > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:41

I completely appreciate your philosophical point. I'd pick SRX over Avenger every time though and I like Dodges.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:41

1. I beg to differ. 272hp would be plenty in a redesigned, lightened version of the SRX.

2. You're probably right. But still, just imagine.

3. You have to admit, even if you like the current styling, the Escalade/CTS are much better looking. That's the design language I think it needs.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:42

And the rest, as they say, is history.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:43

Bleh, 305 is better than 272. Me likely V6.

The thing your looking for is called a first gen SRX. Find one of those. It's literally what you're describing, but it had a Northstar V8.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:44

Why do you think I own a busted ass auto Bimmer 2002? I never had money so i never learned how to use it. Now I'm doing really well for myself (he says, a pizza boy) and I spend dumb money on stupid shit.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:44

Hummer...

Will you be around tomorrow? I was easily won over by the SRX because they sell well, and because I've never driven one.

I have been in an H2 though. And, to put it politely, I don't like them. At all. I'll be interested to hear your defense of them.

Don't bother with the H1/H3. I'm okay with those.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:47

Exactly. I like the first gen more then I care to admit. That is what we need. Even though it didn't sell well.

Give it an Escalade engine if you must. That would be fun.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:48

You really ought to either get that 2002 running, or trade it in on a CL DeVille. I feel like you'd enjoy it more.

How the hell did you end up with a BMW 2002 in the first place, if you hate it so much?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:49

The Escalade already runs a sub 6 second 0-60, that 6.2 in a car that's 2000+ pounds lighter would just be... manic.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:49

Hummer H2- heavy enough it could be counted as farm equipment, more than half the buyers were able to write them off as business expenses and get them basically free.

Interior is cheap shit. Embarrassingly so.

Blindspots are inexcusable.

However they are actually fairly competent off road.

And admittedly, driving one does make me feel like Blain from Predator ("I ain't got time to bleed!")

I think it will easily be a classic in 50 years along with the Aztek at '57 chevy and '59 caddy convertible levels of nostalgia.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
08/06/2014 at 01:50

Kinja'd!!!

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:51

Nah, i genuinely used to love them. And i still appreciate them, I just bought that car at a REALLY dark time in my life, and it's sorta like the last remaining bit.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:52

I'll give you one thing: it is better off-road than you might think.

Trouble is, as a mall cruiser, it's even more pointless than a Range Rover.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:55

I just bought that car at a REALLY dark time in my life, and it's sorta like the last remaining bit.

Where have I seen this theme before?

The parent company went through all the trouble of reshaping the brand's image and making a whole new lineup of great cars, and then left one behind, an obvious relic of the old, evil regime.

O hai.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:56

Totally. But that's why it'll be a bona fide classic. No vehicle better sums up the post 9-11, pre-ressecion era america.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 01:56

Lol, no shit i was gonna add

…..that car is to me what the srx is to cadillac, according to you.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 01:59

You got me there. As much as I want to believe it won't be a classic, and that it will go down as one of America's darkest, most insecure hours, it will likely become collectable.

That is one difference between the Hummer and the '59 Cadillac. The Cadillac was made by a nation that was secure, self-assured, and confident. The H2 was made by a country that was slightly more insecure and needed a confidence booster, in the form of a 3-ton in-your-face terrain-crushing yellow 'murica mobile.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 02:01

It's "freedom fries" on 4 wheels.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 02:02

It still hurts my head to think that was actually a thing.

Your boy, BJR > AM3R
08/06/2014 at 02:03

"Side job" he says to the Pizza Delivery Boy.

Your boy, BJR > Manuél Ferrari
08/06/2014 at 02:04

No handouts, dawg. I pay my bills.

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 02:06

I remember when burger king gave out "god bless america" stickers with every meal. they were EVERYWHERE for a solid year. I even have a getty christmas truck (dodge ram crew cab, 1:24 scale) with A SCALE SIZE GOD BLESS AMERICA STICKER ON THE REAR WINDOW!

AM3R > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 02:08

Yeah, side job.

- BMW salesmen by day, grocery store cashier by night

Your boy, BJR > AM3R
08/06/2014 at 02:08

Caddy salesman by night, Pizza boy by day!
…..wait.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 02:11

Oh say can you see...

Your boy, BJR > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
08/06/2014 at 02:12

….dat ass.

AM3R > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 02:12

You should find a totally legitimate job and stay in school. Always eat your broccoli and never talk back to your mother.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Your boy, BJR
08/06/2014 at 02:13